Nicki Minaj is Allure magazine’s cover girl this month, where she opens up about her cartoonish characters, which mogul’s career she wants and on her hate for exercise.

On dethroning Jay-Z

“I never thought about music as just being the end-all, be-all. I always looked at it like a business, something that I could create an empire out of…. I had a little conversation with Jay-Z at the Victoria’s Secret fashion show. He said, ‘Congratulations on all your success.’ And I was like, ‘Yeah, I’m coming for you. I’m coming for your spot, Mr. Mogul.’”

On exercising:

“I’m naturally petite, but I definitely struggle with keeping those extra pounds off. And I hate working out. I can’t stand being on a treadmill. That mentally irks me. When I need to lose a few, I just cut out sugar and starch.”

On why her fan base ranges from eight-year-olds to adults:

“I think as far as the younger demo is concerned, I play dress-up,” Minaj begins. “I also can put on a very cartoonish voice. So sometimes children may not know what I’m saying, but they like the sound of it, and they think I sound like some weird character.”

On trying out new looks with her hair from the age of nine:

“I had done something I thought was really, really, really cute, and I showed my neighbor,” she says. “She was like, ‘Why’d you do that to your hair?’ And I never forget what I said: ‘I’m someone new in this hair.’”